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		<title>Comment on Working Out Our Salvation by Remington Mandel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remington Mandel</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hi Jason,
  The religious leaders (who set in Moses seat; and for that reason Jesus told the sheep, &quot;Do what they say but do not do as they do.&quot;) hated Jesus and plotted to kill Him because He spoke against their hypocrisy (play-acting) and said, &quot;I know that you do not have the love of God in you.&quot; He spoke this parable against them, &quot;A man planted a vineyard and let it out to vine-dressers and traveled abroad. In due time he sent a servant to the vine-dressers that he might get some of the fruit of the vineyard. And the vine-dressers beat him and sent him away empty. And they did this to as many of the owner&#039;s servants as he sent; even killing some. Finally, having one beloved son, he said, &quot;They will respect my son.&quot; But the vine-dressers said among themselves, &quot;This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, and the inheritance will be  ours.&quot; [Who has the vineyard now and is enjoying all the fruit?] 
  He also told this parable: A certain rich man had a beggar sitting at his gate every day begging table scrapes. They both died and the rich man, in torment, seeing Abraham afar off and the beggar in &#039;Abraham&#039;s bosom,&#039; cried out, &quot;Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this flame.&quot; Abraham said, &quot;There is a great gulf between us that cannot be crossed.&quot; And the rich man, in resignation, said, &quot;Then I beseech you, Father, that you send him to my five brothers to witness to them that they might not come to this place of torment.&quot; And Abraham told him, &quot;Though one came back from the dead they will not be persuaded. They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them.&quot; (&#039;Remember that thou in thy lifetime had good things and the beggar at your gate had bad things.&#039;)
  In Mark 10:45 it tells us that Jesus came &quot; [ουκ ηλθεν διακονηθηναι αλλα διακονησαι και δουναι την ψυχην αυτου λυτρον αντι πολλων] not to be served but to serve and to give His psuche (which is translated about half the time life and half the time &#039;soul&#039; (forgive me, but I don&#039;t know what soul is .. the scripture says the body returns to the dust and the spirit returns  to God .. and, &quot;If God should gather to Himself His Spirit and His breath, all flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust.&quot;). So He came to give His life a ransom 
(anti=in place of, for) many. And the figure that He gave that corresponds to this, is John 3:14, &quot;Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness so must the Son of Man be lifted up... &quot; Moses told the children to look to what was poisoning them and Jesus told them in His day that their human nature was killing them: &quot;Deny yourselves, (give up your earthly live), join to Me, follow Me, he who saves his (earthly) life will lose it, he who loses his (earthly) life will save his life. Turn the other cheek, go the extra mile, bless them that curse you, pray for them that evilly entreat you, do good to those who hate you, this is giving up your earthly life. How fortunate are the poor in spirit - how fortunate are those who mourn - how fortunate are the meek - how fortunate are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness - how fortunate are the merciful - how very fortunate are the pure in heart -how fortunate are the peacemakers ...
  *hamartema* is only four times in the Greek New Testament; and it is always translated &#039;sin.&#039;  *hamartia* is 174 times in the Greek New Testament; 172 times as sin, once as offence, once as sinful. One nice thing thing about Bible revisionists, they cannot put another Greek word in the Bible as they continually substitute English words.
  &quot;The Pharisee (hypocrite), having stood, prayed thus, &quot;God, I thank You that I am not as other men - extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I possess ...&quot; (He trusted in himself that he was righteous, and despised others.)
  I am thankful to see one agreement you share with me, your brother in Christ, you say, as I mentioned in several letters to you and you seemed not to agree then, &quot;Our eyes must always be turned inward to the kingdom of God within...&quot;
Dene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason,<br />
  The religious leaders (who set in Moses seat; and for that reason Jesus told the sheep, &#8220;Do what they say but do not do as they do.&#8221;) hated Jesus and plotted to kill Him because He spoke against their hypocrisy (play-acting) and said, &#8220;I know that you do not have the love of God in you.&#8221; He spoke this parable against them, &#8220;A man planted a vineyard and let it out to vine-dressers and traveled abroad. In due time he sent a servant to the vine-dressers that he might get some of the fruit of the vineyard. And the vine-dressers beat him and sent him away empty. And they did this to as many of the owner&#8217;s servants as he sent; even killing some. Finally, having one beloved son, he said, &#8220;They will respect my son.&#8221; But the vine-dressers said among themselves, &#8220;This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, and the inheritance will be  ours.&#8221; [Who has the vineyard now and is enjoying all the fruit?]<br />
  He also told this parable: A certain rich man had a beggar sitting at his gate every day begging table scrapes. They both died and the rich man, in torment, seeing Abraham afar off and the beggar in &#8216;Abraham&#8217;s bosom,&#8217; cried out, &#8220;Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this flame.&#8221; Abraham said, &#8220;There is a great gulf between us that cannot be crossed.&#8221; And the rich man, in resignation, said, &#8220;Then I beseech you, Father, that you send him to my five brothers to witness to them that they might not come to this place of torment.&#8221; And Abraham told him, &#8220;Though one came back from the dead they will not be persuaded. They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them.&#8221; (&#8216;Remember that thou in thy lifetime had good things and the beggar at your gate had bad things.&#8217;)<br />
  In Mark 10:45 it tells us that Jesus came &#8221; [ουκ ηλθεν διακονηθηναι αλλα διακονησαι και δουναι την ψυχην αυτου λυτρον αντι πολλων] not to be served but to serve and to give His psuche (which is translated about half the time life and half the time &#8217;soul&#8217; (forgive me, but I don&#8217;t know what soul is .. the scripture says the body returns to the dust and the spirit returns  to God .. and, &#8220;If God should gather to Himself His Spirit and His breath, all flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust.&#8221;). So He came to give His life a ransom<br />
(anti=in place of, for) many. And the figure that He gave that corresponds to this, is John 3:14, &#8220;Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness so must the Son of Man be lifted up&#8230; &#8221; Moses told the children to look to what was poisoning them and Jesus told them in His day that their human nature was killing them: &#8220;Deny yourselves, (give up your earthly live), join to Me, follow Me, he who saves his (earthly) life will lose it, he who loses his (earthly) life will save his life. Turn the other cheek, go the extra mile, bless them that curse you, pray for them that evilly entreat you, do good to those who hate you, this is giving up your earthly life. How fortunate are the poor in spirit &#8211; how fortunate are those who mourn &#8211; how fortunate are the meek &#8211; how fortunate are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness &#8211; how fortunate are the merciful &#8211; how very fortunate are the pure in heart -how fortunate are the peacemakers &#8230;<br />
  *hamartema* is only four times in the Greek New Testament; and it is always translated &#8217;sin.&#8217;  *hamartia* is 174 times in the Greek New Testament; 172 times as sin, once as offence, once as sinful. One nice thing thing about Bible revisionists, they cannot put another Greek word in the Bible as they continually substitute English words.<br />
  &#8220;The Pharisee (hypocrite), having stood, prayed thus, &#8220;God, I thank You that I am not as other men &#8211; extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I possess &#8230;&#8221; (He trusted in himself that he was righteous, and despised others.)<br />
  I am thankful to see one agreement you share with me, your brother in Christ, you say, as I mentioned in several letters to you and you seemed not to agree then, &#8220;Our eyes must always be turned inward to the kingdom of God within&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Dene</p>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Remington Mandel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remington Mandel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Debbie,
At the birth of Jesus the angel said, “I bring you glad tidings of great joy…&quot;
  Jesus’ first sermon was from Isaiah 61:1-2, “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me because the Lord has anointed Me to preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of prison to the bound, to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord; … [Isaiah 61:3, to comfort all who mourn … to give them beauty for ashes , the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness,”][because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised KJV]
  If you are not poor, or brokenhearted, or captive to someone or something; or blind, or oppressed, then, I suppose, you have no need of the Deliverer, Jesus, the Spirit. (“Now the Lord (Jesus) is the Spirit.” 2 Cor. 3:17)
  Even Jesus recognized that when He said, “How hardly shall a rich man enter the kingdom of God. It is easier for camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
  I was told some years back that the United States, with 2% of the world’s population had about 70% of the wealth. (That undoubtedly has changed.) That makes this country, these people, the richest in the world. ‘How hardly shall the rich enter into the kingdom of God.’ 
  Because you come from a long line of “people of the Bible,” and have married a ‘man of the Bible,’ and this is a Christian nation, (though it not as evident as it used to be) you are concerned about your Christian walk … your loyalty to the Way of Christ, your communion with the Lord. And you said, “I want to see the kind of humanity that Christ embodied, that Christ lived out, living in me, and teach it to my children and to anyone who cares to learn that way of living.”
  How can we live the humanity Christ lived? At His birth the angel said, “Unto you this day, a Savior is born, who is Christ the Lord.” When the baby Jesus was presented at the Temple, Simeon took Him in his arms and said, “My eyes have seen Your salvation which You have prepared before the face of all peoples, a light to bring revelation to the gentiles, and the glory of Your people Israel.”     When He was twelve years old He was in the Temple, sitting in the midst of the   teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers.
  When He left home to begin His itinerant teaching He gathered twelve students, mostly simple fisherman. And then He taught the Jews to turn back to God for the kingdom of God had drawn near. He healed all who came to Him, and some who didn’t. He forgave sins (“Who can forgive sins but God only?”). He raised the dead, restored sight to the blind, made the lame walk, cast out wicked spirits, walked on the sea, stilled the storm, fed thousands with a few loaves and fish, turned water into wine, healed a woman who had a bloody hemorrhage for twelve years (she touched the hem of His garment and was made whole), cast out demons who recognized Him as The Holy One of God, “the Son of God,” restored a withered hand, healed a paralytic, cleansed lepers, cured a demon possessed, blind and mute man, made a fish with money in its mouth get caught on Peter’s fishing line, restored a man’s ear that had been cut off with a sword, walked away from a crowd that was taking Him to a cliff to throw Him off, foretold His resurrection from the dead – and, of course, raised Himself from the dead… This Is No Kind Of “Humanity Lived Out.” This is the Son of God with power. Romans 1:4.
Dene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debbie,<br />
At the birth of Jesus the angel said, “I bring you glad tidings of great joy…&#8221;<br />
  Jesus’ first sermon was from Isaiah 61:1-2, “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me because the Lord has anointed Me to preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of prison to the bound, to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord; … [Isaiah 61:3, to comfort all who mourn … to give them beauty for ashes , the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness,”][because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised KJV]<br />
  If you are not poor, or brokenhearted, or captive to someone or something; or blind, or oppressed, then, I suppose, you have no need of the Deliverer, Jesus, the Spirit. (“Now the Lord (Jesus) is the Spirit.” 2 Cor. 3:17)<br />
  Even Jesus recognized that when He said, “How hardly shall a rich man enter the kingdom of God. It is easier for camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”<br />
  I was told some years back that the United States, with 2% of the world’s population had about 70% of the wealth. (That undoubtedly has changed.) That makes this country, these people, the richest in the world. ‘How hardly shall the rich enter into the kingdom of God.’<br />
  Because you come from a long line of “people of the Bible,” and have married a ‘man of the Bible,’ and this is a Christian nation, (though it not as evident as it used to be) you are concerned about your Christian walk … your loyalty to the Way of Christ, your communion with the Lord. And you said, “I want to see the kind of humanity that Christ embodied, that Christ lived out, living in me, and teach it to my children and to anyone who cares to learn that way of living.”<br />
  How can we live the humanity Christ lived? At His birth the angel said, “Unto you this day, a Savior is born, who is Christ the Lord.” When the baby Jesus was presented at the Temple, Simeon took Him in his arms and said, “My eyes have seen Your salvation which You have prepared before the face of all peoples, a light to bring revelation to the gentiles, and the glory of Your people Israel.”     When He was twelve years old He was in the Temple, sitting in the midst of the   teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers.<br />
  When He left home to begin His itinerant teaching He gathered twelve students, mostly simple fisherman. And then He taught the Jews to turn back to God for the kingdom of God had drawn near. He healed all who came to Him, and some who didn’t. He forgave sins (“Who can forgive sins but God only?”). He raised the dead, restored sight to the blind, made the lame walk, cast out wicked spirits, walked on the sea, stilled the storm, fed thousands with a few loaves and fish, turned water into wine, healed a woman who had a bloody hemorrhage for twelve years (she touched the hem of His garment and was made whole), cast out demons who recognized Him as The Holy One of God, “the Son of God,” restored a withered hand, healed a paralytic, cleansed lepers, cured a demon possessed, blind and mute man, made a fish with money in its mouth get caught on Peter’s fishing line, restored a man’s ear that had been cut off with a sword, walked away from a crowd that was taking Him to a cliff to throw Him off, foretold His resurrection from the dead – and, of course, raised Himself from the dead… This Is No Kind Of “Humanity Lived Out.” This is the Son of God with power. Romans 1:4.<br />
Dene</p>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Working Out Our Salvation &#171; Journeying Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Out Our Salvation &#171; Journeying Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Debbie Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,
You said, &quot;And in the fullness of his humanity, Christ embodies the kind of humanity into which we are being saved.&quot; I want to see that kind of humanity lived out. I want to learn to live it out and teach it to our children and to anyone who cares to learn that way of living.  But my question is, how do we do that? You ended with this paragraph.

&quot;But the death and corruption that finds residence in our lives also must be expunged at a practical level. Christ died on a cross not so we could avoid one, but so we could take up one ourselves. The New Testament documents are replete with pastoral exhortations to mortify whatever belongs to the old nature and to begin practicing by grace that which belongs to the new nature, the renewed image of God as embodied in Christ. So in practice, communion with God requires both an ascetical side of dying to self and a sacramental side of participating in the divine grace. Through this process we work out our salvation and become by grace what God is by nature.&quot;

This is what I was trying to talk about last night.  &quot;Living a life that is participating in the divine grace.&quot; seems to exclude certain activities, thoughts and habits and it includes others that are opposed to the former things. But, how do we talk about living like that, without sounding &quot;legalistic&quot; or  seem like we are trying to be &quot;holier than thou&quot;? How can we raise our kids to live in the divine grace or the communion with God, if we let them watch whichever shows they want to watch and listen to whatever music that they want to listen to, etc., etc.? How do we ourselves participate in this salvation of our humanity if we are in fact, not really ready to mortify our desires or our entertainments? I know that it is easy to fall into legalism. I know that the &quot;holiness movement&quot; fell into that trap. But there has to be a way to live and participate in the divine grace that Christ has made available to us. There has to be a way of living out our salvation that imitates Christ and that causes people to note a difference between those who are imitators of Christ and those who are not. I don&#039;t see how to live and teach this kind of life without setting rules and boundaries and removing things which are in opposition.  Do you have any non-legalistic approach to living like this... imitating the fullness of the humanity of Christ which leads to our salvation? 

I look forward to your answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,<br />
You said, &#8220;And in the fullness of his humanity, Christ embodies the kind of humanity into which we are being saved.&#8221; I want to see that kind of humanity lived out. I want to learn to live it out and teach it to our children and to anyone who cares to learn that way of living.  But my question is, how do we do that? You ended with this paragraph.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the death and corruption that finds residence in our lives also must be expunged at a practical level. Christ died on a cross not so we could avoid one, but so we could take up one ourselves. The New Testament documents are replete with pastoral exhortations to mortify whatever belongs to the old nature and to begin practicing by grace that which belongs to the new nature, the renewed image of God as embodied in Christ. So in practice, communion with God requires both an ascetical side of dying to self and a sacramental side of participating in the divine grace. Through this process we work out our salvation and become by grace what God is by nature.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is what I was trying to talk about last night.  &#8220;Living a life that is participating in the divine grace.&#8221; seems to exclude certain activities, thoughts and habits and it includes others that are opposed to the former things. But, how do we talk about living like that, without sounding &#8220;legalistic&#8221; or  seem like we are trying to be &#8220;holier than thou&#8221;? How can we raise our kids to live in the divine grace or the communion with God, if we let them watch whichever shows they want to watch and listen to whatever music that they want to listen to, etc., etc.? How do we ourselves participate in this salvation of our humanity if we are in fact, not really ready to mortify our desires or our entertainments? I know that it is easy to fall into legalism. I know that the &#8220;holiness movement&#8221; fell into that trap. But there has to be a way to live and participate in the divine grace that Christ has made available to us. There has to be a way of living out our salvation that imitates Christ and that causes people to note a difference between those who are imitators of Christ and those who are not. I don&#8217;t see how to live and teach this kind of life without setting rules and boundaries and removing things which are in opposition.  Do you have any non-legalistic approach to living like this&#8230; imitating the fullness of the humanity of Christ which leads to our salvation? </p>
<p>I look forward to your answer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Randi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is just nothing more awesome than that.  
God has saved us, is saving us, and will save us!</description>
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God has saved us, is saving us, and will save us!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Jason Zahariades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, CD! You&#039;re the best!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Christina D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Mark on that...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Jason Zahariades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mark! I always appreciate your encouragement.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Incarnation and Salvation by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome again J. Can you just repeat this to me at least once a week?</description>
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		<description>[...] Incarnation and Salvation « Journeying Home  jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/incarnation-and-salvation &#8211; view page &#8211; cached  I would wager that most Christians easily associate Christ’s Incarnation with humanity’s need for salvation. It’s popularly recited, “God became man in order to save us.” In fact, I would... (Read more)I would wager that most Christians easily associate Christ’s Incarnation with humanity’s need for salvation. It’s popularly recited, “God became man in order to save us.” In fact, I would even go further and wager that most Christians believe our need for salvation compelled God to become man. I’ve lost count of how many “gospel presentations” I’ve heard stating that God’s only course of action was to become human and rescue us. And I’ve heard the Incarnation reduced even further to such statements as “God became human just so that he could die for us.” (Read less) &#8212; From the page [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stan. I thought you&#039;d be interested in this. I discovered through Fr Stephen&#039;s blog that there is more to the &quot;Now I lay me down to sleep&quot; prayer. Here&#039;s the prayer as found on Fr Stephen&#039;s blog (http://fatherstephen.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/now-i-lay-me-down-to-sleep/):

&quot;Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,
Bless the bed that I lie on.
The are four corners to my bed,
Four angels round my head,
One to watch, and one to pray,
And two to bear my soul away.
Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake,
I pray the Lord my soul to take.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stan. I thought you&#8217;d be interested in this. I discovered through Fr Stephen&#8217;s blog that there is more to the &#8220;Now I lay me down to sleep&#8221; prayer. Here&#8217;s the prayer as found on Fr Stephen&#8217;s blog (<a href="http://fatherstephen.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/now-i-lay-me-down-to-sleep/" rel="nofollow">http://fatherstephen.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/now-i-lay-me-down-to-sleep/</a>):</p>
<p>&#8220;Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,<br />
Bless the bed that I lie on.<br />
The are four corners to my bed,<br />
Four angels round my head,<br />
One to watch, and one to pray,<br />
And two to bear my soul away.<br />
Now I lay me down to sleep,<br />
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.<br />
If I should die before I wake,<br />
I pray the Lord my soul to take.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counting the Waves by Remington Mandel</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/counting-the-waves/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Remington Mandel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Creator God has become a human being..&quot; 
  He sent His only-begotten Son: who emptied Himself of his divinity [εκενωσεν, kenosis ] .. and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to the point of death.
  But still, being found in fashion as a man, He healed the sick, raised the dead, calmed the wind and sea, cast out unclean spirits, forgave sins (&quot;Who can forgive sins but God alone?&quot;), fed multitudes, His healing virtue went out though the touch of His garments; after He rebuked the wind and said to the sea: &quot;Peace, be still,&quot; His disciples became terrified of Him and said, &quot;Who can this be, that even the wind and the sea obey Him!&quot; 
  He constantly chided the religious leaders, saying at one point, &quot;Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites (play actors): &#039;This people honors Me with with their lips, but their heart is far from Me, and in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.&#039; 
  &quot;For laying aside the commandments of God you hold the tradition of men --&quot;
R. D. Mandel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Creator God has become a human being..&#8221;<br />
  He sent His only-begotten Son: who emptied Himself of his divinity [εκενωσεν, kenosis ] .. and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to the point of death.<br />
  But still, being found in fashion as a man, He healed the sick, raised the dead, calmed the wind and sea, cast out unclean spirits, forgave sins (&#8220;Who can forgive sins but God alone?&#8221;), fed multitudes, His healing virtue went out though the touch of His garments; after He rebuked the wind and said to the sea: &#8220;Peace, be still,&#8221; His disciples became terrified of Him and said, &#8220;Who can this be, that even the wind and the sea obey Him!&#8221;<br />
  He constantly chided the religious leaders, saying at one point, &#8220;Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites (play actors): &#8216;This people honors Me with with their lips, but their heart is far from Me, and in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.&#8217;<br />
  &#8220;For laying aside the commandments of God you hold the tradition of men &#8211;&#8221;<br />
R. D. Mandel</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counting the Waves by Me</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/counting-the-waves/#comment-714</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could read that 1000 times</description>
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		<title>Comment on Quotes on Prayer by Randi</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/quotes-on-prayer/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>Randi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To look at someone or something with love is prayer.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A New View on Theology by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/a-new-view-on-theology/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing, David. I appreciate the distinction of pious opinions. And your reminder that Christ perfects us is timely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing, David. I appreciate the distinction of pious opinions. And your reminder that Christ perfects us is timely.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dn Charles, Thank you for sharing this resource.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stan! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It&#039;s amazing how a simple prayer learned as a child can still touch something deep within us. It&#039;s interesting that the more I grow in prayer, especially with the prayers of those who walked with God before me, also causes my love for the Body to grow as well. Prayer is becoming less and less an individual activity and increasingly more a communal one, even when I pray by myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stan! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It&#8217;s amazing how a simple prayer learned as a child can still touch something deep within us. It&#8217;s interesting that the more I grow in prayer, especially with the prayers of those who walked with God before me, also causes my love for the Body to grow as well. Prayer is becoming less and less an individual activity and increasingly more a communal one, even when I pray by myself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dana. I resonate with your comments. I came out of a pastoral staff situation that was unhealthy. So while I appreciated the concept of having a priest and spiritual father, my baggage caused me to recoil emotionally during my first encounters with Fr Patrick. But as you said, the focus on prayer, humility and lack of force easily won me over. In my Protestant past and as a professional pastor, I related to those above me in a &quot;boss-employee&quot; relationship. It is so fulfilling to have finally entered into a relationship with a true spiritual father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dana. I resonate with your comments. I came out of a pastoral staff situation that was unhealthy. So while I appreciated the concept of having a priest and spiritual father, my baggage caused me to recoil emotionally during my first encounters with Fr Patrick. But as you said, the focus on prayer, humility and lack of force easily won me over. In my Protestant past and as a professional pastor, I related to those above me in a &#8220;boss-employee&#8221; relationship. It is so fulfilling to have finally entered into a relationship with a true spiritual father.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darla, thanks for reading the post and sharing your thoughts. Believe me, I still struggle as well. But there is such a fullness here in the Orthodox Church that I have not found anywhere else. So while I do not pray perfectly or consistently, my love for the Church&#039;s prayers and all the other aspects of the life of Christ within the Church is constantly growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darla, thanks for reading the post and sharing your thoughts. Believe me, I still struggle as well. But there is such a fullness here in the Orthodox Church that I have not found anywhere else. So while I do not pray perfectly or consistently, my love for the Church&#8217;s prayers and all the other aspects of the life of Christ within the Church is constantly growing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randi, Watching you journey from near death to where you are now has been awesome! God&#039;s grace and love is absolutely amazing. I consider it a privilege to have joined my simple prayers for you along with all the other prayers from God&#039;s family on your behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randi, Watching you journey from near death to where you are now has been awesome! God&#8217;s grace and love is absolutely amazing. I consider it a privilege to have joined my simple prayers for you along with all the other prayers from God&#8217;s family on your behalf.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dn Charles, Thank you for stopping by and reading the post. I started reading your blog and I&#039;m enjoying the material I&#039;m finding there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dn Charles, Thank you for stopping by and reading the post. I started reading your blog and I&#8217;m enjoying the material I&#8217;m finding there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CD! Thanks for reading the post and the nice compliment.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Dn Charles</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Dn Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic!  Prayer is so important and Orthodoxy does have such wisdom regarding prayer.
Another insightful post!
For those starting out on Orthodox Prayer here is a website than may be helpful.
http://www.OrthodoxPrayer.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic!  Prayer is so important and Orthodoxy does have such wisdom regarding prayer.<br />
Another insightful post!<br />
For those starting out on Orthodox Prayer here is a website than may be helpful.<br />
<a href="http://www.OrthodoxPrayer.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.OrthodoxPrayer.org</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Stan DLC</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-703</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan DLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can remember praying: &quot;Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord, my soul to keep...&quot;  Not a very well written prayer but one that has even recently sent me to remember the joy it was for me to KNOW that He was hearing my prayers.  During my youth, I remember praying and wondering IF the prayers made it to Him.  Either I was too far from Him or He was too far from me.  The other day, I remember saying that old prayer to myself as I was getting ready to sleep.  I found it to be refreshing.  The same God then as today, but I do know Him much better now.  His love for me never changed.  He does not love me any more now than He did when I was 7.  My relationship with Him is deeper.  I am thankful for that.  &quot;Other people&#039;s prayers&quot; work for me.  In some cases, the words are not use to my lips but the heart of the prayer does warm my heart.  Someone else has been there and found this connection.  Jason, a good reminder.  Much thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can remember praying: &#8220;Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord, my soul to keep&#8230;&#8221;  Not a very well written prayer but one that has even recently sent me to remember the joy it was for me to KNOW that He was hearing my prayers.  During my youth, I remember praying and wondering IF the prayers made it to Him.  Either I was too far from Him or He was too far from me.  The other day, I remember saying that old prayer to myself as I was getting ready to sleep.  I found it to be refreshing.  The same God then as today, but I do know Him much better now.  His love for me never changed.  He does not love me any more now than He did when I was 7.  My relationship with Him is deeper.  I am thankful for that.  &#8220;Other people&#8217;s prayers&#8221; work for me.  In some cases, the words are not use to my lips but the heart of the prayer does warm my heart.  Someone else has been there and found this connection.  Jason, a good reminder.  Much thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Dana Ames</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree a wise and humble spiritual father is a true blessing.  Having come through the &quot;shepherding movement&quot; and &quot;apostolic prophecy&quot; groups in the &#039;70s, with their propensity toward coercion and outright abuse, this is one thing I really looked at closely when I was considering Orthodoxy.   The focus on prayer, humility and lack of force really impressed me.  This built-in &quot;safety valve&quot; made it ok for me to trust in this area.

I also have a wonderful parish rector/spiritual father.  We&#039;re very close in age, and he &quot;gets&quot; me; this is not simply &quot;personality&quot;, but true wisdom and kindness developed over a lifetime.   It&#039;s different relating to him as spiritual father as well as brother in the Lord; but it&#039;s a good sort of odd-ness!

Dana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree a wise and humble spiritual father is a true blessing.  Having come through the &#8220;shepherding movement&#8221; and &#8220;apostolic prophecy&#8221; groups in the &#8217;70s, with their propensity toward coercion and outright abuse, this is one thing I really looked at closely when I was considering Orthodoxy.   The focus on prayer, humility and lack of force really impressed me.  This built-in &#8220;safety valve&#8221; made it ok for me to trust in this area.</p>
<p>I also have a wonderful parish rector/spiritual father.  We&#8217;re very close in age, and he &#8220;gets&#8221; me; this is not simply &#8220;personality&#8221;, but true wisdom and kindness developed over a lifetime.   It&#8217;s different relating to him as spiritual father as well as brother in the Lord; but it&#8217;s a good sort of odd-ness!</p>
<p>Dana</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fr Sophrony&#8217;s Prayer by Darla Sautter</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/fr-sophronys-prayer/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>Darla Sautter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the description of why we pray written prayers.  I am also a new Orthodox Christian (well, I&#039;m a catechumen) and I still struggle with saying my morning prayers, evening prayers, praying the hours, etc. My mind wants to get &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt;.  And while I know part of Orthodoxy is not always &lt;i&gt;getting why&lt;/i&gt;, your words (in the paragraph starting with &quot;Now as an Orthodox Christian...&quot;) helped me see a little bit more the value of this practice. I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the description of why we pray written prayers.  I am also a new Orthodox Christian (well, I&#8217;m a catechumen) and I still struggle with saying my morning prayers, evening prayers, praying the hours, etc. My mind wants to get <i>why</i>.  And while I know part of Orthodoxy is not always <i>getting why</i>, your words (in the paragraph starting with &#8220;Now as an Orthodox Christian&#8230;&#8221;) helped me see a little bit more the value of this practice. I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Randi Mc</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Randi Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I had my aneurysm, I quit the gym, but God gave me another chance in the spiritual gym of Orthodox life in Christ, to keep on repenting and changing my mind!  Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, as He said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I had my aneurysm, I quit the gym, but God gave me another chance in the spiritual gym of Orthodox life in Christ, to keep on repenting and changing my mind!  Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, as He said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Dn Charles</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Dn Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thoughtful post, Thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Transfiguration by Christina D</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/personal-transfiguration/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can a blog post be tasty? Cause this one is.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Silence of the Lips by Mark</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/silence-of-the-lips/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but.....</description>
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		<title>Comment on A New View on Theology by David L</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/a-new-view-on-theology/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>David L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say Orthodoxy is full of opinions, Toll Houses for instance, the distinction perhaps is that in Orthodoxy we call them pious opinions. The saints East and West had disagreements. I find great strength in knowing that the saints were not infallible and that they didn&#039;t always agree. In my time in Orthodoxy I have found that depending on the jurisdiction I can find a variety of opinions, the Greeks for instance lean heavily on works being essential to salvation where ROCOR and the OCA seem to heavily balance faith and works. Depending on whether it is a convert or cradle parish the Antiochians can go either way. While ROCOR and Antiochians call Roman Catholics heretics the Greeks conduct joint services. At first I was disheartend to learn that Orthodoxy is not remarkable in its divisions, disagreements and disunity. We are part of the same fallen race as the protestant, the muslim, the atheist. It is by the grace of God I am Orthodox, and when my opinions are contrary to the faith it is Christ that perfects me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say Orthodoxy is full of opinions, Toll Houses for instance, the distinction perhaps is that in Orthodoxy we call them pious opinions. The saints East and West had disagreements. I find great strength in knowing that the saints were not infallible and that they didn&#8217;t always agree. In my time in Orthodoxy I have found that depending on the jurisdiction I can find a variety of opinions, the Greeks for instance lean heavily on works being essential to salvation where ROCOR and the OCA seem to heavily balance faith and works. Depending on whether it is a convert or cradle parish the Antiochians can go either way. While ROCOR and Antiochians call Roman Catholics heretics the Greeks conduct joint services. At first I was disheartend to learn that Orthodoxy is not remarkable in its divisions, disagreements and disunity. We are part of the same fallen race as the protestant, the muslim, the atheist. It is by the grace of God I am Orthodox, and when my opinions are contrary to the faith it is Christ that perfects me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak to God about Your Children by Debbie Z</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/speak-to-god-about-your-children/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you tell me. I have spent all these years thinking that the lecturing was the way to go. Okay, time to try this with prayers instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you tell me. I have spent all these years thinking that the lecturing was the way to go. Okay, time to try this with prayers instead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could Bad Theology Get Any Worse? by Ozzie H</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/could-bad-theology-get-any-worse/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozzie H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had seen the preview I can tell you that I would not waste my time watching it. Based upon what you described, definitely not interested. Sadly, many will. Why is it that people, particularly &quot;Christians&quot;, do not read the bible? We would not ask half the questions we ask and our discernment would be much more in tune with God&#039;s mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had seen the preview I can tell you that I would not waste my time watching it. Based upon what you described, definitely not interested. Sadly, many will. Why is it that people, particularly &#8220;Christians&#8221;, do not read the bible? We would not ask half the questions we ask and our discernment would be much more in tune with God&#8217;s mentality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could Bad Theology Get Any Worse? by Debbie Z</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/could-bad-theology-get-any-worse/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is disturbing! Sadly, I really think it will appeal to many young people. We as a society have so trained ourselves and our young people, to buck leadership and rebel against authority, that this is just what they would think of God and his angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is disturbing! Sadly, I really think it will appeal to many young people. We as a society have so trained ourselves and our young people, to buck leadership and rebel against authority, that this is just what they would think of God and his angels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could Bad Theology Get Any Worse? by fatherstephen</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/could-bad-theology-get-any-worse/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>fatherstephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mormons are writing for tv.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Happy 12th Birthday, Danielle! by christina</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/happy-12th-birthday-danielle/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy birthday Danielle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Happy 12th Birthday, Danielle! by Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIPPO BIRD DAY DANNI! LOVE YOU SWEETIE!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Steeping in Orthodoxy by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/steeping-in-orthodoxy/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dana. Congratulation on being received on Pentecost! And thank you for your words. It&#039;s reassuring to know others are experiencing something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dana. Congratulation on being received on Pentecost! And thank you for your words. It&#8217;s reassuring to know others are experiencing something similar.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steeping in Orthodoxy by Dana Ames</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason.

I&#039;ve stopped by for the news, and I&#039;m happy to read whatever you write.

I do know what you mean by coming to a place where the studying needs to be put on hold for a while.  Other than the books my priest wanted me to read as a catechumen, and one or two others that were helpful, I have not been in a huge hurry to read everything, which is somewhat surprising.  It&#039;s an hour drive one way to my church, and I can&#039;t wait to get there and just be in the liturgy, or even simply in the building, and soak.

My catechumenate was not quite four months long.  I was received on Pentecost.

Dana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stopped by for the news, and I&#8217;m happy to read whatever you write.</p>
<p>I do know what you mean by coming to a place where the studying needs to be put on hold for a while.  Other than the books my priest wanted me to read as a catechumen, and one or two others that were helpful, I have not been in a huge hurry to read everything, which is somewhat surprising.  It&#8217;s an hour drive one way to my church, and I can&#8217;t wait to get there and just be in the liturgy, or even simply in the building, and soak.</p>
<p>My catechumenate was not quite four months long.  I was received on Pentecost.</p>
<p>Dana</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steeping in Orthodoxy by Jason Zahariades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron, thank you very much for your encouragement.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Steeping in Orthodoxy by Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been several months since I last checked in here (for a few reasons, nothing to do with the quality of your site), and it&#039;s good to hear an update. Sounds like you&#039;re in a great place, though I can appreciate your struggle as a writer wanting to explore and express this wonderful transformation in process. However you do it, keep writing! I enjoy your posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been several months since I last checked in here (for a few reasons, nothing to do with the quality of your site), and it&#8217;s good to hear an update. Sounds like you&#8217;re in a great place, though I can appreciate your struggle as a writer wanting to explore and express this wonderful transformation in process. However you do it, keep writing! I enjoy your posts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steeping in Orthodoxy by Debbie Z</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/steeping-in-orthodoxy/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your decision to let it seep into you more before you start writing all about it. Let the flavors and aromas become a part of you. Then, the words you write will be imbued with the essence of that which has filled you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your decision to let it seep into you more before you start writing all about it. Let the flavors and aromas become a part of you. Then, the words you write will be imbued with the essence of that which has filled you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steeping in Orthodoxy by Christina D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Inflicting Death by Fr Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, the unnaturally fast human technology crashes with not-so-fast nature.
This reminds me of an episode when I was a university student in Eugene Oregon at Univ. of Oregon. I was walking back from campus along a very busy street. There, just off the main drag, near the parking lane was a cat, clearly having just been hit by a car. It lay there, its eyes totally blasted out of its crushed head and it still was alive. Trembling. I was struck with a sense of radical helplessness as I watched this harmless creature suffer agonizingly toward certain demise. Frankly, I left it there: what else to do? Later, the next day, I went back to see; nothing--no body, no sign. 
I never forgot that moment. It taught me that all creation takes consequences for our human recklessness. 
Was your driving reckless? No, by your testimony. But, is the sum total of our devotion to metal and oil? I contend, yes.
Such are the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, the unnaturally fast human technology crashes with not-so-fast nature.<br />
This reminds me of an episode when I was a university student in Eugene Oregon at Univ. of Oregon. I was walking back from campus along a very busy street. There, just off the main drag, near the parking lane was a cat, clearly having just been hit by a car. It lay there, its eyes totally blasted out of its crushed head and it still was alive. Trembling. I was struck with a sense of radical helplessness as I watched this harmless creature suffer agonizingly toward certain demise. Frankly, I left it there: what else to do? Later, the next day, I went back to see; nothing&#8211;no body, no sign.<br />
I never forgot that moment. It taught me that all creation takes consequences for our human recklessness.<br />
Was your driving reckless? No, by your testimony. But, is the sum total of our devotion to metal and oil? I contend, yes.<br />
Such are the consequences.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Change of Opinion by Jason Zahariades</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/change-of-opinion/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Zahariades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that was meant as a complement. ;-)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Change of Opinion by Mark F.</title>
		<link>http://jzahariades.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/change-of-opinion/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iphone seems perfectly tuned to your style J.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Inflicting Death by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry man.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Surprised by Rhino by Debbie Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. I really like what that hamster had to teach us. You did a good job of unpacking the story behind the story.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Word-Chef by Debbie Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do have a way with words. I can totally see you cooking with words. Nice image.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Happy Golden Birthday, Cathy! by Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 15th Birthday, Cathy!!  She&#039;s truly a special star!</description>
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